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Message started by angiebaby on Jul 25^th, 2007, 8:02am

Title: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by angiebaby on Jul 25^th, 2007, 8:02am

Hi all, just wanted a bit of reassurance again. Feeling a bit fed up at the moment as i think that i've been doing well until now. Doctor has given me a sick note and i've started to see a therapist for CBT. Still taking Omeprazole/Losec, one a day 10mg's. Still have ectopics but not as many but when i do they are whoppers, big and bad!! But they have calmed down a lot to what they used to be, but alas they do still frighten me. Still suffering with unreality, DP/DR etc, etc which i really horrible and frightening. Now, we have just been away for three days in the van, camped in a field where we have been before. I did really well, not too many problems at all. However, i did forget to take my tablet yesterday morning and this morning i was awoken at 6.30 with the irregular heartbeat. My ectopics were never caught on the ecg maching or on the holter monitor so they have never been presented in black and white as it were. But these did not hurt my chest or feel like a big bang and take your breath or anything, these were more like a little skip. So i felt my pulse and yep it was real, they were happening. Instead of the normal THUD THUD THUD, it was a THUD THUDTHUD THUD THUDTHUD, as if they were premature beats but only little. I know that a lot of people have these and i have felt this before, normally in a morning before i get up, could be hunger, wind etc, but just needed a bit of reassurance on this just to remind me that i'm ok. Thanks.x

Title: Re: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by beadbabe on Jul 25^th, 2007, 8:13am

Hey Angie
Yes, they are often that way for me. I am sure rlr will explain as he has definitely explained to me before about how they are essentially the same thing but sometimes they feel different. And that catches you off your guard, doesn't it?
Best wishes
Bead

Title: Re: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by RLR on Jul 25^th, 2007, 10:01am

I don't think we're talking about PAC versus PVC in your case, but rather the specific entry point of the Vagus nerve stimulation upon normal sinus rhythm of the heart during ventricular contraction. Depending upon the phase of the heart at the time of entry, the palpitation can either be detected as mild or exaggerated.

Overall, by reading your posting, it sounds as though you're doing quite well. You simply need to remember that benign palpitations of the type being experienced are not originating from the heart, but rather due to Vagus nerve stimulation elsewhere. The heart's rhythm is affected by the impulse, but does not represent heart disease of any type whatsoever.

You'll be just fine.

Best regards and Good Health

Title: Re: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by angiebaby on Jul 25^th, 2007, 3:53pm

Thankyou for your replies. I understand that this is not a problem with my heart, i am trying hard to keep this in mind at all times and yes i suppose it does help slightly. I do also notice that i get more when i am hungry or could be windy. Which i know makes perfect sense too. It does still get to me though even though i am trying very hard indeed. We are going away in the van again for two more days to a different site in the morning. A little bit anxious but i will get through it again.
Even though i know my heart is ok it would still be nice and even more reassuring to catch these blighters in black and white, even if it is just to have a look at it now and then when i am feeling particularly unimpressed with them! The big ones are bad, very hard and solid and take my breathe away and make me jump. But they do go, something that i have always been scared of is if they never stop. But they always have even when they have been really bad and i've had them for a whole day. And as i have said i have had these little and frequent ones before and they are not nice and are quite un nerving and of course they keep coming and seem to last for ages, constant. It feels just like an irregular heart beat and in my chest there is no big bang, just little flutters. I'm sorry, i know that i've said all this before. But when i feel my pulse that is exactly what it feels like, a premature beat. Not spaced the same and not affected by my breathing at all. It sort of goes THUD THUDTHUD THUDTHUD THUD THUD THUDTHUD, totally irregular. I know about the gas in my system and the medication has helped some, but this irregular beat lasts for ages. I had this for three and a half hours this morning in bed. I kept coughing and turning over and it would stop for a little bit and then start again. It did stop however, after i got up.
The this afternoon it started again, and this was when i was feeling a little hungry. I ate and my pulse went straight up into the 90's and stayed there for three hours and i had a few more irregular batches and then it stopped again. I then had one massive ectopic in the centre of my chest and then 5 minutes later another massive one. And that has been all up until now of course. So by some people's standards i don't suppose i'm so bad anymore and thankyou RLR for saying that i am doing well. Kind words indeed. And believe me i am trying so hard. My first CBT exercise is to jog on the spot for 1 minute and then not to check my pulse or notice my heart rate. She says that i can do less or more depending on how i go on and i will see her again in two weeks. I know that she is trying to desensitize my system from noticing my heart rate when it increases, and i am really going to give it my best shot, i want to be my old self again so much. But i do have my doubts that she will be able to help me. But i am hoping so much that she can. Will keep you all posted.x

Title: Re: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by seffie on Jul 26^th, 2007, 1:01am

Hi Angie,
sorry you're not having a good time with these palps, I can hear the anxiety in your post!
Just wanted to let you know that I get lots of different kinds of palps, at first they feel different in my chest but when I feel my pulse I can tell that they are actually ectopic beats but just feel a little different & I remind myself of what RLR says-that depending on where in the beat the stimulation occurs affects how the ectopic feels. Sometimes I'll get the 'pause' sensation without the big thump for example.
Just recently I started getting a palp that feels like a kind of sliding sensation, as though it doesn't beat normally but just kind of slides into it's contraction! Very strange but again, when I felt my pulse (which I know I shouldn't be doing!) then I could tell that it was actually an ectopic beat.
Hope this helps a little.
Seffie xx

Title: Re: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by beadbabe on Jul 26^th, 2007, 1:18am

Hi angie and seffie
Yes, what you are both saying all sounds very familiar.
sounds like we all have the same kind of episodes going on
x

Title: Re: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by angiebaby on Jul 28^th, 2007, 8:22am

Thanks guys, yep they are bothering me a little. I know they feel better than the BIG BANG ectopics that i get, and i still get them, but these just keep going although they don't bang and they are not powerful, they are just out of rhythm. I know that i'm not the only one who gets these, but they are annoying!! I have just been away for two more days in the caravan at another site, it was ok, i did really well. But for these two days i have still been having these beats and i find them very unnerving still. But i am still living and am here to tell the tale.

Title: Re: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by seffie on Jul 28^th, 2007, 12:01pm

Hi Angie,
just wanted to tell you that every time I come on here & see your name I keep singing that song from the seventies called 'Angie Baby', I think it was by Carly Simon but I could be wrong!!!!
It sticks in my mind for ages!!!!
Sorry, totally irrelevant I know but just had to tell you-as I sit here singing Angie Baby in my mind over & over & over.........................!!
Still, takes my mind off the palps!!
Seffie xx

Title: Re: ?PAC'S/PVC'S
Post by angiebaby on Jul 29^th, 2007, 7:49am

Bless! Thanks a lot that sounds cool to me.xx