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I'm so scared!!
Jan 11th, 2007, 8:46am
 
Hello Everybody! This is my first post, and I'm scared. I'm 19, and lately I've been having horrible palpitations. I keep feeling them in my throat and they make me cough. I feel lightheaded, and like I'm going to pass out. Well about a month ago I called 911 because the skipping was so bad. When I got to the ER, the skipping had stopped but my heart racing fast and I mean really fast! I thought it was going to die! They ran an EKG and the Doctor said he saw no development of an arrythmia, but that I probably had an SVT episode after the PVC's. I've been to a Cardiologist. I had a echocardiogram and stress test, and the Doctor said the tests came back normal. These episodes have been happening for about two years, but they are getting worse. My fear is that I'm going to develop a fatal arrythmia and die during a future episode. The skipping and racing are so bad now I don't know what to do. They get really bad when I PMS, when I'am hungry or have hunger pains, or when I bend over. I've been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder, panic disorder, and depression. I just came off of Lexapro, and started 60mg of Cymbalta, along with Xanax and Ativan. The palpitations are the thing that cause my ''disorders''. I get them when resting! Sorry it's so long I'm just so scared and I don't know who to talk to. My question is: Don't I need to be having the palpitations for them to diagnose an arrythmia or a developing one on the EKG?

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Reply #1 - Jan 11th, 2007, 1:48pm
 
Okay, initially I'm going to disagree with treatment using Xanax and Cymbalta. I don't care for the use of an SSNRI in the presence of anxiety disorder. This class of drugs are known as selective serotonin, norepinephrine inhibitors. The inhibition of uptake of these neurotransmitters leaves them available for metabolism far longer than normal conditions allow and the result is increased levels which cause relief of depressive symptoms. Xanax, or alprazolam, is in a class of drugs called benzodiazapines and they are relatively short-acting, but because of this have a rather potent effect range and withdrawl symptoms are experienced in some cases despite the short half-life of the drug. Adding Ativan, a similar benzodiazapine, is simply putting things over the top in my opinion.

One vital clue is your statement regarding the ironic disappearance of symptoms once reaching a portal of proximity to help in the way of healthcare, ie the emergency room. This is extremely common among patients with anxiety disorder and the sense of security perceived is often extremely potent in its ability to cause change in anxiety symptoms and abate the problem temporarily until a panic threshold occurs once again.

As I've told others who either join or visit this forum, you will not die from benign palpitations and in over 40 years of practice, I've never even heard of a patient developing a cardiac event from this type of palpitation. It would be of value for you to carefully read the postings at the heading of this site entitled HEART PALPITATIONS 101. It will help you better understand what is taking place.  

As for seeing it to diagnose it, we don't need to see an arrhythmia or other event take place to diagnose the underlying problem because symptoms are related to underlying pathology. In other words, if you're experiencing symptoms of heart disease or other serious condition, we are able to use a variety of diagnostic tests to determine what is wrong. An arrhythmia is a consequence of disease, not the cause. So never worry that nothing can be found. It's always great news.

This is a difficult syndrome for someone so young, but I want you to speak with some of the members here and you'll find that it's not dangerous at all, but rather an extreme nusiance that as you already know, can be quite unnerving and unsettling. It has caused many people to become somewhat introverted and suffer from agoraphobia because they feel too far from help should they be out and about when symptoms strike. It also tends to support a notion that overwhelming embarassment will be suffered should they become incapacitated or that someone will think they are strange.

My advice here is to try and locate a more conservative healthcare professional. I think they're trying to throw everything but the kitchen sink at your condition and frankly, it can make it worse under such conditions. I'm not a fan of either Lexapro or Cymbalta and only use it under certain circumstances in the elderly. I exclusively do not prescribe it to someone your age and much of what young persons suffer from with regard to depression and anxiety is "situation specific." This is very difficult to treat with medication because unless the environmental cause is dealt with to satisfaction, no amount of medication can make the symptoms go away and many a patient has found themselves on very high doses trying to outrun their dilemma.

VERY IMPORTANTLY, however, you cannot simply stop taking these drugs and must speak with a healthcare professional in order to safely wean from them. I would ask about seeking a single agent to use in dealing with your anxiety and then couple the pharmaceutical treatment with professional counseling to better identify and understand the underlying cause for your anxiety. The combination is extremely effective. Tranxene is one of the better benzodiazepines for anxiety, but any of these drugs regardless of their value, are strictly for short-term use. This is why it's so important for you to seek and obtain professional counseling so that you are not dependent upon medication for relief.  

You will also find great support among the members here, many of whom have shared your experiences. They're an excellent group of people and can offer you a shoulder to lean on in helping guide you through some of the rougher times.

Above all, you're going to be fine. Simply continue your medications until you speak with a physician to make adjustments and then get a referral for counseling. The effects of anxiety can be extremely frightening, but are not harmful to you in any way and regardless of palpitation events, they will never harm your heart or cause a cardiac event. Stay clear of anything that has stimulant properties, ie chocolate, coffee, tea, energy drinks, etc., and not that you're doing so, but illicit substances will readily cause anxiety exacerbations to perpetuate and even threshold. Just so you're aware.

You'll be fine. Hang in there.

Best regards and Good Health
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Reply #2 - Jan 11th, 2007, 4:01pm
 
Thank you so much RLR!! You have definitely made me feel so much better! I'am definitely going to talk to my Doctor about getting off of my medication. I don't like the way it makes me feel, although I have to admit, I'm dependent on Xanax and Ativan. I'm terrified of coming off of them because of the withdrawls symptoms. But I sure as heck will try!

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Reply #3 - Jan 12th, 2007, 2:01am
 
Hi Nicolette

Welcome to the forum.

RLR has always the best advice and has always been on hand with reassurance.

I am just about to start anxiety management classes, I don't like taking any medication for my anxiety, because, at the end of the day the issues that have slowly caused you to have this anxiety disorder and along with the others you mentioned, will still be there once you've come off your medication, You do need to seek counselling and some sort of coping classes.  

For now though, try to do some relaxation take a hour out every day if possible, do not take on things you really don't want to do, many people with our disorder seem to,  so say No! adjust your thoughts, as soon as that little voice in your head starts telling you your going to die, try to ignore it, it won't happen! think of something pleasant, do some diaphramatic breathing, this is where you sit up straight, put your hands on your belly just below your and on the bottom of your ribs with your middle fingers just touching, then take a deep breath in through your nose so your middle fingers part slightly then exhale through your mouth slowly making your you empty your lungs properly do this a few times and it does help, 1 you are breathing properly not in short breaths which happens when your anxious and 2 your concentrating on that! it can make you feel a little light headed if you do it for to long so keep it short.  I found changing my diet helped too, eat 6 small meals a day instead of 3 larger ones, RLR says always drink after not during eating, this works, also drink slowly, try and sit for about 20 mins after eating if you can't then don't do anything to quickly.  For me avoiding caffine is good so no Tea, Coffee, Coke or Chocolate  :'(, I nust admit I have cut down but I have the occasional chocolate bar and I drink de-caf tea,  If you decide to drink de-caf, do not drink on a empty stomach!.
Avoid all fizzy drinks, and no spicy foods cut down on cheese if you eat alot of that.  I was also told to cut out of limit the amount of leafy veg I eat as this causes wind.  Do some exercise and I don't mean go to a gym I mean do some walking and drink enough water.

I know it sounds alot but it does help they won't completely go, but will calm them and help you deal with them better.  

This is what works for me and it's worth a try.  I was about 22 when I started noticing the missed beats and it's scary, mine also get aggrivated by my periods, but one doctor told me once that anxiety is heighten at this time so its a a big circle.  Our thoughts are our biggest problem!  Try to think more positively.

Hope you didn't mind me giving my opinion across and I hope it may have helped.

Kath x  Smiley
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Reply #4 - Jan 12th, 2007, 2:04am
 
Hi

Forgot to say do not eat anything heavy 3 hours before you go to bed, only have a plain biscuit or something or you'll not sleep properly as you'll be hungry.

Sorry

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Reply #5 - Jan 12th, 2007, 7:38am
 
Thank you Kathryn! I really appreciate it. Smiley
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Reply #6 - Jan 12th, 2007, 8:42pm
 
Hi Nicolette!  You landed in the right place for support when it comes to anxiety, panic attacks & heart palpitations Smiley  I have had panic disorder for almost ten years now and while I am not proud of that fact, I am happy to say I am still alive.  My main symptom of a panic attack & subconscious anxiety is dizziness.  I get palpitations whenever my adrenaline starts pumping in response to negative stressors.  I tend to over think so that can bring on palpitations and anxiety.  Your being 19 in our current time frame is probably stressful so don't feel like you are over reacting you are just responding to an emotional overload.  Anxiety tends to hit very empathic, intuitive &/or sensitive people.  If any of those descibe you then there you go  Smiley

Keep talking, it really does help.  We are all glad that you are here!

 
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