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Palps are better. Sharing what worked for me
Jun 13th, 2012, 11:16pm
 
I just want to tell everyone that I'm feeling much better thanks in no small part to this forum, especially Dr. Rane.  I'm about 90%+ better and but I'm positive I'll completely recover.  I thought I'd summarize what symptoms I experienced, what worked and what didn't.  I may edit this over time as I recall more important details.

About me and my symptoms
I'm a 43 year old male.  Up until last December, I was in perfect health. I worked out almost every day. Ate relatively well and didn't have a worry in the world.  One day, I was working at the office and out of the blue I experienced something that felt something come over me that can best be described that I was going to have a seizure, heart attack, stroke...I don't know what it was.  Perhaps it was a panic attack?!  Regardless, it was scary and lasted about 15 seconds until a load of adrenaline and I stabilized.  I have had several episodes since then.  Anyway, this set in motion a chain of events and symptoms that took place over the next 6 months.  It seemed like a cascade of symptoms from my previously healthy body.  Here are some of the symptoms I experienced:

  • Mainly painful and frequent palpitations/irregular heartbeat (Holter identified 1200 PACs and early morning bradycardia at 28 bpm)
  • Chest pain/tightness/heaviness both at heart level and right at sternum
  • Intense pain in back between shoulder blades
  • EXTREME fatigue. So bad sometimes that it felt like my body didn't even have enough life force to sustain itself


Because of my symptoms, in retrospect, I believe the following symptoms may have been a result of anxiety although they didn't feel like it at the time...I'm still not sure if they weren't physical but I'm prepared to be open minded about it:

  • Exercise intolerance
  • Headaches
  • Nausea
  • Dizziness
  • Tremors mostly internal but some mildly visible
  • Depersonalization/Derealization
  • Startled easily by noise
  • Bothered by light
  • Problems falling asleep
  • Problems staying asleep (woke up 3-8 times a night)
  • Vision disturbances
  • Loss of appetite
  • Loss of weight (10lbs in 2 weeks)


There were many more symptoms but those were the majority.  I did SO much Internet research.  I clearly had a health anxiety issue as well.  I saw my doctor 1-3x/week for 4 months straight.  I went into the ER at the hospital 10x during that time period.  I saw an Internist, Neurologist, Gastroenterologist and 2x Cardiologist.  

I had MRI, CT Scans, XRays,  stress tests, everything came back normal just as RLR said it would.

Treatment that didn't work for me

I tried everything but they didn't stop the palpitations which I thought was the root cause of everything:

  • Supplements including magnesium, fish oils, apple cider vinegar, blackstrap molasses, CoQ10, Zinc, calcium (this may have caused a kidney stone), vitamin C, vitamin D, B12, etc.
  • Acupuncture (5 treatments)
  • Chinese herbs - Yuck and it didn't work
  • Naturopath - I find that they do two things: Tell me to eat better and try to sell me their supplements
  • Homeopathy - This was ridiculous.  I'll leave it at that.


What worked

So here's what I felt worked for me or relieved my symptoms:

  • I asked my doctor to prescribe me an SSRI.  I felt my body was in constant fight or flight mode.  I was always tired but wired but I couldn't calm it. I took the minimal amount.  The first few weeks were hard because there are a lot of side effects but your body adapts.  Don't take Benzodiazepines...any medication that works that fast can easily become an addiction.
  • I talked to a therapist (psychologist).  Again, I felt my symptoms were physical but I was being open minded.
  • I started eating better.  I started to become oriented towards a plant-based diet...not completely but mostly.  This may not in itself resolve the palpitations but helped reduce anxiety and reduced stimulants like refined sugars, salts, fats, processed foods, etc.
  • I walked alot.  I tried to be around nature as much as possible.
  • I stopped drinking caffeine.  I drank decaf green tea and decaf coffee (not too much though)
  • I listened to alot of calming music
  • Meditation.  I meditated on positivity and getting better rather than trying to clear my mind
  • I drank lots of water
  • I read two books.  One on Mindfulness & Acceptance and the other was an Anxiety book (PM me if you're interested in the titles...no I don't sell these books and you can prolly find them at the library)
  • I prayed alot and went to church
  • Spent time with my family
  • I came back to this forum whenever I felt overwhelmed by the palps
  • Positivity...I can't say enough about keeping this mindset.  Putting your head in a negative space will keep the palps going, it causes anxiety to grow, depression may develop and you'll have a whole other problem to deal with.


The bottom line here is I recognized that the palpitations could no way hurt me as Dr. Rane had indicated, however, putting this to practice was more easily said than done.  Simply by recognizing that the palps were there and acknowledging them but knowing they can't hurt me allowed me to carry on with my life.  After 5 months of dealing with my palps, slowly, over a few weeks I noticed that they just disappeared.  Now even though I think of them they don't reappear and if they do, I just carry on.

Anyway, that's how I've overcome my palpitations and most of my other symptoms.  I hope this helps someone.
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Reply #1 - Jun 14th, 2012, 6:04am
 
Nice post, great story,

Your experience reminds me much of my own over the last few years. I too have drastically reduced the amount of worries that I carried over this time. Your list of symptoms is very familiar to me as well, having had all of those regularely, including the weight loss.

I've also gone through the "alternative" phase where I was desperately searching for other forms of therapy and treatment, not for my anxiety but for Crohn's. Tried the herbs, the diets, the lifestyles and the "ways of thinking differently" but nothing worked. I don't regret taking any of it, but I realise that it was a mistake on my part. At one time I was taking about 10 different "herbal supplements" to try and find some relief. I am just thankful that the alternative route is largely filled with crap that doesn't work, because if those pills and tablets that I'd taken actually did something I might have damaged myself. But that's a learning experience and I won't ever be making the mistake of actually believing that homeopathy, Chinese medicine, herbs and plants will cure me of my problems! One such quack I fell for was making claims about how eating only raw vegetables will cure every disease known to man, along with drinking "ionized" alkaline water. Looking back, I'm absolutely ashamed of myself for being so easily duped by what I now see clearly as bullshit!

I find your list of methods interesting. What's more interesting to me is that your approach is a completely different one to that of my own. Only a few of those are simliar to me, and those are eating better and exercising more... probably something everyone should do.

I've said this in the past, that you've got to know you're alright, but I never truly believed myself when I said it. From an intellectual point of view, I understood that these symptoms were harmless, but that wasn't enough to convince me I was going to be fine. There's something else at work in trying to come to the realisation that we're not in harms way, and it isn't  intellectual reasoning. I firmly believe that learning and understanding about the symptoms we present goes a long way in helping us to come to terms with what's happening, but taking that knowledge and information, along with the facts, and then actually assuming a position in which you know without doubt that you're fine, is something that I still ponder. I don't know how I did it and I would really like to find out just for the sake of knowing. It bothers me that I don't know why, but at the same time I'm truly thankful to Dr. Rane and the forum members for being around when we need them.

You should join the RLRs thread "Here's a Question for All of You" and share your experiences in there.

George.
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Reply #2 - Jun 14th, 2012, 10:33am
 
What a positive and inspiring post. Thank you very much.

Did you suffer from acid reflux as well by chance. I have the most terrible acid these days. Hoping its all part of the same thing.

I will try the things you have listed. Already bought a mindfulness book and am on the first chapter. It came with a cd and is an 8 week course in a book.


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Reply #3 - Jun 14th, 2012, 12:08pm
 
Thanks for your insights George.  Yes, what works for some won't necessarily work for others.  What I wanted to point out here is that the things that controlled my symptoms unknowingly were addressing the cause which I didn't recognize because I was so focused on my symptoms.  When I look back I noticed that all the things that worked for me shared one thing in common.  They all worked on reducing the underlying anxiety that I didn't believe I had because I never felt stressed.  The only stress I had was around me focusing on my health all the time and worrying about the palps.

In retrospect, I went through my due diligence and saw my doctors and specialists. Intially I kept going through the phase that they had missed something.  I then realized, at some point I actually have to have to believe the doctors who are treating me.  With that epithany, I sustained my disbelief that it wasn't caused by anxiety and focused on the fact that the palps couldn't hurt me.  At one point, I was encouraging the palps to happen to prove to myself they won't hurt me.  I'm actually in a mindset now that I welcome the palps when they happen especially after reading about someone who had an abalation (sp??) and the problems that occurred after he got rid of the palps but felt worse after.  He also wished the palps would return.

So in summary the things that helped me infact cured the anxiety that I didn't believe I had.

Regarding the question on acid reflux or GI problems.  It was part of the due diligence as I believed I had it.  After seeing my GI specialist, they told me I had no problems.  I accepted that and I didn't question if he had missed something.
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Reply #4 - Jun 14th, 2012, 5:31pm
 
I haven't had any tests on the GI problems yet. Will be speaking with my GP on Monday.

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Reply #5 - Jun 14th, 2012, 6:14pm
 
With respect to anyone who has chest pains and believes they "may have acid reflux", I'm not quite sure how acid reflux gets confused for other types of chest pain(s). I've had mild, moderate and severe reflux over the years and never once mistook it for some other kind of pain. It was quite clearly a mild-severe burning in the throat. A corrosive acid in the gullet is not really mistakable is it? Sorry to be abrupt about this, perhaps it's just me.

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