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Wilkes
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Dec 24th, 2012, 8:47am
 
Hi all. I'm new to this forum have posted on other sites before and have been redirected to you guys. My first incident of fibrilation  was in November December 2010 But I didn't even realise that was what was going on then on Boxing day 2010 I woke up fibrillating, Didn't know what it was tried to get up couldn't do anything ended up down a and E after about four hours I was finally seen to and fortunately I reverted back to normal sinus rhythm on my own. Then went to see specialists had echoes ECGs and echocardiograms. A specialist told me my heart was structurally normal with trace mitral regurgitation nothing to worry about and to just get on with my life with no medication. To my knowledge I've had no major incidents of fibrillation since then. I say to my knowledge because the incidents I had previously both happened at night and woke me up. Anyway I've been noticing recently that every week or two I get a little thump in the chest which usually pushes out a cough, But lately I've been getting them more frequently especially when I go to bed at night and laydown I can feel them coming at push out a cough and really freaked me
out. If I feel my pulse at times it seems to go quite faint and then comes back stronger I seem to be in normal rhythm but something just doesn't feel quite right I keep getting sharp chest pains that are usually followed by a burp. Now I have to add that I am an anxious person and have suffered quite badly from this but I'm not so bad at the moment. So as you can imagine these strange heart feelings are getting me anxious.
Sorry to go on but just wanted to make my self clear as to getting replies that might help me.

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Reply #1 - Dec 24th, 2012, 8:51am
 
Sorry should add, 45 year old male pretty good lifestyle pretty active don't drink don't smoke.
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Reply #2 - Dec 24th, 2012, 11:01am
 
Hi Wilkes:

Welcome to the board. I am suffering from the same thing you are. Please realize that as long as you have had the proper workup from medical professionals (which you have), you should be in no danger. Have you had a to wear a monitor at all yet?

As RLR has mentioned, atrial fibrillation is common among younger people and doesn't mean we have anything wrong with our hearts. I believe its called lone atrial fibrillation.

Stress and anxiety can bring this on. I would say the fact that you are getting the palpitations more now that you are stressed is a big factor.

I get heart palpitations when I lay down or move positions quickly. I think they are caused by anxiety and trapped gas. Sounds like if you are burping and coughing you are stimulating your vagus nerve, which would cause the palpitations.

I also had an episode of atrial fibrillation. I am, by no means, feeling better yet, but one step at a time. I still stop in my tracks when I feel a palpitation. A few months ago, I would think about it all day. Count each one etc. Now 5 minutes later, I have forgotten about it. Even the fluttering 5 seconds ones, I can almost ignore. Its been a long road though. One thing that helps me is metaprolol, a beta blocker. My palpitations at night have greatly reduced.

Hopefully RLR can chime in here and make you feel a little more at ease.  

Try to relax and enjoy your holiday season.
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Reply #3 - Dec 30th, 2012, 7:59am
 
Okay, welcome to the forum and I've read your posting and concerns.

Episodic atrial fibrillation is a common manifestation in otherwise healthy individuals and does not necessarily represent a clinical sign of cardiopathology. Indeed, your test results support entirely normal heart function and structural soundness. It is not uncommon for the presentation to arise nocturnally as well and unless sleep apnea is present, then the no underlying cause is to be considered.

The "thump" sensations are actually nothing more than benign vagus nerve-induced palpitations and originate from outside the heart by wayward stimulation of the vagus nerve as a consequence of stress or anxiety. You can more think of the events as a muscle twitch similar to that you might experience with an eyelid from time to time. Remember that the heart is as much a muscle as it is an organ and because it is so dynamic, any irregular nerve impulse being introduced into the cardiac cycle can be variable in sensation depending upon precisely when the signal intervenes i.e. atrial or ventricular.

The reason that the events compel a cough reflex is because the vagus nerve innervates many organs and structures in the body, including the larynx. When inappropriate evoked potentials, or nerve impulses travel along the vagus nerve, all of the terminal endings respond. Again, the heart's response is merely more dramatic because of its dynamic nature. The cough is induced by the same nerve impulse.

The events are incapable of causing you any harm and lack the capacity to induce any type of cardiac event whatsoever. Although they produce a strange sensation which is variable in presentation, they are nevertheless entirely benign and pass without subsequent effect.

You'll be just fine.

Best regards,

Rutheford Rane, MD (ret.)
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