hi Bigcountry

I applaud your postings . But I think its not true to say that nothing is wrong physically with all posters on this forum..
I've read alot of stories of people who really have a problem or disease. Just the last posting someone has a neuropathy. I wouldnt call that nothing. and that could very well explain bodily and heart related nerve system sensations. In my opinion you cant say that everyone on this site has no severe problem and are still all alive. I wish it was true, but who controls that statement?
What I do read is that a lot of people have a lot of bodily symptoms where they are bothered by, and feel anxious about.
Because they are anxious about it, ANXIETY is the key word.
I often write, I do believe anxiety is involved in most cases, and mine. But if anxiety is the CAUSE?  NO, I often don't believe that. way to easy. EVERYONE in life goes to ups and downs. But not everyone get these symptons I have on the chest, and in that severity. Not everyone gets your or others their complaints. and yet they are too anxious from time to time.
Its way more complicated than that in my opinion.
I think in 50% or more there is a bodily explanation for what we feel, but because people all react differently and modern medicine is too much about a general look of symptoms and tests , a lot of people are stuck with their symptoms. Because when an EKG said your heart is fine and you passed a stress test , your heart is ok. maybe it is, but your symptoms are still there. and the heart does react to it.
When it is from the stomach and reflux and so on.. it isnt anxiety.. it is from your stomach and reflux.. thats what I mean. You can react upon the symptoms with anxiety but your problem is reflux or your stomach. not psychosomatic.
if you have a neuropathy you have a neuropathy. will you die from your heart sensations? maybe and probably not. but you have an physical problem.
POTS..physical.   Roemheld.. physical
some minor deviations with your heart. PHYSICAL
hypothyroid ..physical
And yet I read everything is anxiety.
no, there is often a disturbance somewhere in the body , probably not dangerous at all. THAT is where my fault and problem kicks in.. I think everything that isnt felt as normal is abnormal so a bad thing.
but a physical problem where due to sensations you react anxious upon

the last thing is what my problem is.
I know for sure that there are physical symptoms that I have. they are caused physically, but I react badly upon it.  thats my anxiety.
What I want is for my doc to explain my bodily symptoms and ehats causing them,...  the problem is..he doesnt know?>????
because he doesnt know..its anxiety.
thats the wrong way .. if you dont know..you look and do research and dont put a low B12 a low D A slow thyroid, a high ureum , neuropathy like sensations , chestsensations, pain , constant chest pain in mainly anxiety like labeling. it can be..but it isnt sure it is.
even people with real deadly diseases have anxiety. but you dont say.. well come on..its anxiety. the axiety is the result. not the instigator.

So I often read how RLR explain the arousal fight and flight theory.
And thats always involved. offcourse it is. but often its the response and not the cause. Or you got anxiety because of something your BODY does and now you have both!

I always want to know what CAUSES my complaints. not how I react upon it. THAT i understand.
How i got it in the first place , my complaints , is a mystery
A guy that was 35 years old.. ran for 25 miles a week with two fingers in his nose and from one day after he became unwell one morning detoriated in years to a wrack. all anxiety !!??
I dont know. I do believe it was and is something physical. maybe nothing really dangerous at all, where i reacted upon with anxiety. But I want to know what it was and now what it is..its only than in my opinion you can understand whats wrong and learn to deal with it.
Now its only anxiety I have to deal with but dealing with anxiety wont cure my symptoms..it only learns me how to deal with them,

before doing that you have to know WHAT your dealing with

thats my believe and also my battle now. because the only thing i hear is anxiety..but no one seems to understand that it didnt start there and thats not the only factor. you cant be anxious for 5 years 24 hours a day. a body can only be so long in arousal and than it has to unwind. I've been there so i know the difference. constant pain and burning skin and burping and intolerable exercise level isnt only anxiety. too easy and not very logical at all.
I want to know what causes it. So if its roemheld..what does that mean physically.?
Is it POTS.. what does that mean physically and ehat is the way to deal with it?
What else can cause it..and what is the danger in that..or is it safe to do everything even though you have 24 hours of pain and sensations and you react bad to exercise.?

explanation is the key. anxiety story not. Most of us became anxious due to there symptoms not the other way around

I dont mean any disrespect, I am not even say i'm right..maybe i'm dead wrong. but thats how I feel about it. and the constant battle of proving its not ONLY anxiety is a tiring and frustrating one. I know i'm no doctor but there is no better judge of how you feel than the patient him or herself.
I often say.. hypothetically.. lets asume for once my thoughts are right.. and I have Roemheld, or Pots or  SFN or deficiencies vitamins and slow thyroid. in what danger am i and how can we be sure its not that .. if we can erase that possibility your one step closer to the answer. but by doing so and saying that, I get the feeling people get offended and you even more are sent away with hypochondriac or anxiety

I dont care , with all respect. Its MY body. I have the sensations , I want them GONE. I want to have my life back
And the only thing they offer me..is ..anxiety and to take a big leap of faith..nothing is wrong..

I wish also doctors would understand how difficult that is.

end of my moaning