I think what you are saying though, is very relevant. I mean dissatisfaction in a job and the boredom must add to how you feel generally.


What I meant before, about everything not having to be connected to past trauma is that...our past may pave the way for what we do and how we handle the now...but it is the now we must deal with.

It happens that some situations are not so easy to change. For example your job. It would be fine if someone would keep you while you set up something else. But, when you have a family and commitments - well then it can seem unreachable and we can slump back into a kind of depressing acceptance.

But, nothing is impossible, hard yes, but not impossible.

Perhaps rather than jump into ideas quickly, you could discuss options with someone - see what ideas spring to mind.Perhaps you need to widen your horizons rather than make them higher.  Maybe join a forum/community of artists...get some ideas from them. See what other people are doing. Where is there a nitch in the market. Seek out work for example from publishers as a free lance illustrator, or advertising companies etc.

It may seem off thread - but to me we are all trying to find how to feel okay in our lives and turning those things over with each other. It will be individual

I think we are a really helpful bunch of people. This thread seems to have slowed down.

jason wrote on Aug 31^st, 2010, 11:46pm:


Meh!  A blog/album site on a content management system....SIMPLES!  I work in IT but am not technical in any way.  Took me about a day to work out a simple Blog site (well two in fact).  With a pointer on where to start I think anybody can do it!

I still wonder, however, why we have gotten to this stage but the majority of people never do.

Most of us can list our stressors and things that cause us anxiety quite easily and quickly and I think most of us jumped in pretty quickly in this thread and actually did list them, pretty sure I did.

But RLR wanted us to look beyound cause and effect, and said to me back then that I wasn't even at a place where I could actually see the real causes, I don't feel I have moved much beyound that point.

So I wonder if we are not really there yet, as you said you have been searching for years for insight, so will any more years of searching in the same way make you see anything differently?

Not trying to be negative, just progress  

Hi Typer,
Yes it makes sense, it's pushing / forcing you to be proactive and do what you know needs to be done.  

With that comes the realization, as we have stated many times, that we are obviously causing these palps and other symptoms by keeping our bodies / minds on a state of moderate to high alert, due to the unresolved conflict within each of us.

When we feel that we have more direction in our lives then things should subside and go back to alert off on the switch, so to speak.

So when RLR used the analogy of OZ was he merely (but importantly)pointing out to us that those characters had lost direction in their lives, due to the things they thought they lacked and that in our own ways each of us had also lost our own way and direction in our lives too, and that we needed to find our true directions.

And also how the Tin man for instance fixated on the fact that he needed a heart to feel complete, but he just needed to realize that it was already there and not fixate on the symptom (no heart beat), which was distracting him from living his life normally and to the full???

I agree with RLR it is important to recognise the palps are coming from psychological rather than physical causes.

Also, I think Typer's comments earlier rang very true for me. In that it is more important to focus on where we are Now, and where we are headed, rather than how we got here.

We got here by not paying attention to where we were going, and if we carry on not paying attention, we will end up somewhere else we don't want to be! The answer for me was to set goals and do something every day, however small, towards acheiving them.

Any thoughts anyone?

Jules I agree, goals are important and each of us will have some that are more meaningful than others.

I do have hobbies (I write short stories and make cards and jewellery) but these will not resolve the life issues I have to deal with. In a way they encourage me to procrastinate.

Here I am, I have my mindfulness medication  tapes, my dancing tapes and a host of "get me well" paraphernalia and what do I do, I waste time on the computer or doing things that bring nothing but more stress.

Jason, we could do with sharing or maybe swapping some of our traits, I need some more get up and go, maybe you need some more of my problem where I tend to sit down and wait. LOL


I have been reading this wonderful book, recommended by the cardiology registrar. A Search in Secret India.

I had supposed he recommended it re my interest in meditation and our chat about yogi's and healing etc.

Well I began it, and fell into it right away. Its so beautifully written. At first I thought it was just this one man's search for true Yogi's as well as seeking out frauds and so on. The man was a journalist and a skeptic. But what he found offers so much hope. The write up's on Amazon say it all. It was written in 1934.

Anway (she takes a breath) I have reached the part that is to teach me how to heal my body and keep it as healthy as possible. It is so fascinating and I shall really MAKE myself begin the practice of mediation on a regular basis.


Here is a link for anyone interested in this method, whilst I do realize its not everyone's idea for healing

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Search-Secret-India-Paul-Brunton/dp/1844130436