Brilliant, yes please do share when you have a chance ;O)

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel that RLR is giving us time to think and to come up with some of our own answers about the palps.
I for one, would like to see them gone forever, but will they ever be?

Agree, this is certainly the thinking thread  

EDIT: I began writing this thread before RLR had made his post (sorry for taking so long to write it!)

Typer wrote on Aug 11^th, 2010, 4:37pm:

I am also in agreement. As I posted about on the first page I believe the onset of my troubles began with overwhelming amouns of many negative emotions such as anger, bitterness and hatred. I have noticed a serious change in my general emotional tone for well over a year now. I am very quick to anger, generally more angry than I ever have been (like I live in an angry state), very irritable and easy to frustrate, and others. I have become used to it now but before this all began I was very much the opposite. I have never been one to get angry at almost anything and it used to take rather a lot to 'set me off'. I was never irritable at all; nothing bothered me like it does now. Even the cats can really wind me up when they come meowing for food or want attention. Loud noises that interrupt what I am doing (such as sirens drowning out the TV) make me angry, if someone speaks to me inappropriately, jokes at my expense or interrupts me while I am doing anything (like watching TV) I can quite easily become very angry and frustrated. It's like a fire that fuels itself.

I've also become very combative and competitive with regards to everyday events. I have always been a competitive person but this aspect of me seems to be more pronounced to the point where I can't let something go until I've either been proven right or wrong. Also, if I happen to be wrong then that also increases my liklihood of being more angry and bitter over it. While that's not entirely unusual in and of itself, it is for me. I don't 'normally' have a problem with being wrong and would ordinarily have seen it as an opportunity to expand my own knowledge and understanding about things, but since all this has happened I seem to have had a re-wiring of my internal circuitry.

With that in mind, I am again asking myself the question: what's the answer? If negative thinking got me (and apparently, us) in to it (which is still in question), could positive thinking get me out of it? If that is the case, could simply eliminating the bad emotions without introducing positive ones cause a cessation of symptoms? How can this even be achieved?

I am starting to question whether RLR intends to come back to this thread or whether its purpose all along was to keep us in continual discussion with each other to try and discover the cause(s) of our problems. We seem to be going well with the discussion part, but are we discovering anything? I am not sure, I seem to have come to some great realisations about things I was already aware of. For example, the connection between the vast amounts of negativity with regards to my emotional states in the past and present, and the symptoms I currently experience. We don't seem to be collecting our data or making any type of comparative, collective analysis of our responses and reasoning. I think we should start looking at our responses and begin comparing them in a detailed manner to find anything that may be considered a potential anxiety-provoking event or cause.

Although we are all different with respect to our anxiety and its cause(s), anxiety is a medical condition that we can study in detail. We all have the same condition and therefore, we are all likely to have some very similar problems (causes) so maybe we should start analysing our similarities and see if it reveals anything.

If anyone else is interested, post here and we can form some kind of structure by which we can objectively analyse ourselves as a group.


Let's continue the discussion, it's getting more and more interesting for me and I hope we can actually make some progress.

George.

George, Jazzyman

People can, have and do recover from nervous states. George may I ask your age and if you remember when you began to feel less tolerant. And may I ask if you were overly tolerant previously?

When I say overly tolerant, I do not necessarily mean passive, rather what some term "laid back"

Jazzyman, you say your past was dysfunctional - when you say 'restore', do you mean to a state before the dysfunction, or was there no before?

Sorry to seem nosey but some questions can be like keys to unopened doors.

I am certainly back on the road of self discovery. I cant remember where I got off, being as it has been my work for so long. But it shows me how that journey is life long.

Here I sit, palps crashing away thinking....I can beat this and I will because I will learn how to deal with stress and help my mind see things for what they are. Nothing is worth worrying about before my mental and physical health

Let me clear up my last post.

Before the palpitations began happening, there was anxiety.

In  fact, the palpitations started when I was pregnant with my only child 31 years ago.

I was raised by my parents to be totally dependent and when I got married and moved out of their house, I had a tremendous breakdown and was even hosptalized.

For years now, the palpitations are more frequent.

In fact, my husband and I are leaving to go out of town to see my sister in law who is dying, and I keep having palps.

Also, does the anxiety ever cause anyone to be fatigued, sleepy and irritable?

I am in therapy, but I really want to figure this out with RLR's help.

Will I ever be "normal"?

Interesting that we are all aware that anxiety and/or stress is the culprit. The big question then seems not: How can I get rid of these palps? but: How can I deal better with stress and/or anxiety.

My negative thinking is that life is full of stresses, and it is that idea that has me so negative. To think of having these for the rest of my life is just so depressing

The only reassurance I have is from speaking with a few people who have not had these since they became more able to deal with anxiety. Some people are always going to err on the side of anxiety, but, coping with it and stopping it early before it spirals may stop these palps